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Tweak says, "The better to eat you, my dear"

Willow (the_willow) wrote,
@ 2008-05-31 09:03:00

Current mood:	exhausted
Entry tags:	about me, fuckwittery07 - livejournal, online: journaling systems, the move

Me + Livejournal
Woke up to postpone moving van.

Still tired, so likely going back to sleep. The gingerale I put in the freezer is frozen solid. My aim was to make gingerale slushy. I'm looking at it all forelornly now. I want gingerale slushy but alas, it is not there. This summer I may need to consider ginger tea ice-cubes or something.

Some point to this ramble. iJay is my home.

I don't see anyone talking about LJ's newly stated policies over here. But maybe that's because, like with me, iJay is your home. I'd recently re-considered my comment posting. I'd been considering even giving up the two places I have been bothering to post using my account. Now I won't. But I'm not going to un-privatelock my journals at LJ either. And I will not be posting at LJ.

This is just me. Once you lose me. You lose me. And I seriously believe that if it wasn't for the case of 'The Things White People Do' - I wouldn't have had any any impetus to comment at LJ at all. (eta: clarification = with my lj journal account)

iJay's my home. I trust squeaky. Moreover I respect him.

I've also discovered functionality to have lj-like comments for Blogger.

It's nice and all that LJ went to rehab and got detox and therapy and is apparently trying to rebuild its life. But all the damn interventions wore me out.

I don't give a fuck.

Edited: Corrected title. How sleepy tired was I that I added an ex for no reason?

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zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com
2008-05-31 09:36 am UTC (link)

Why do you keep talking about LJ? It feels like I'm being attacked (people with real moral integrity left LJ long ago!), and I don't understand why you are doing it, since you theoretically don't give a fuck.

I still give a fuck, and I feel like dropping your journal when I read repeated LJ bashing in it.

I get it, ok? You like insanejournal and squeaky better than Livejournal and SUP. You have communicated that. It is understood.

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the_willow
2008-05-31 10:05 am UTC (link)

Seriously Zvi, what crawled up out of the sheets and bit you? This isn't about 'people with real whatever left whenever'. This is me saying that I saw LJ's new policies, but I'm not returning or making my content available again.

Why do I discuss LJ? Well for one thing, you're on it. And other people I like and care about (even when they're being bitchy and acting like they've got sleep deficit). LJ acting sanely makes me feel less like I'm compromising my morals when I follow those people I care about.

Obviously I deemed those individuals/(communities) more important than my personal politics. But being able to reconcile the two is a good thing in my book.

There are some people on my flist who've been having trouble moving things over or who've been exhausted about the whole thing and who will likely welcome the chance to go back. Heck just two days ago someone was talking about how much crossposting exhausted them and hoping the friends they'd made here wouldn't mind too much if they went back to posting mainly on LJ.

LJ straightening out is what they want. What they like. And a whole bunch of other things. I was just saying that I'm fine where I am. I feel comfortable. I understand if some folk go back, but I won't.

Seriously, your comment makes me feel like someone hacked your journal and has decided to go around making comments where you have access in order to defame your character.

If you want to drop me. Drop me. You can call me to check up on me or check my twitter or whatever.

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zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com
2008-05-31 10:56 am UTC (link)

You know what, I'm feeling pissy about a con.txt thing. Your continually bashing livejournal is FUCKING ANNOYING and it does make me want to drop your journal, but the sensation usually lasts all of five seconds.

Sorry I didn't wait it out like I usually do.

P.S. If you want to get rid of me, you don't have to make an entire other LJ post about it, just a simple "Fuck You" will do it.

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the_willow
2008-05-31 11:04 am UTC (link)

Having someone I think of as part of my support network posting something like that - not a 'Damn girl, chill. It's over. Step away from the hating' but something like that?

Yes. It got me pissed enough to do a whole separate post. Who knows who else feels like that or feels trapped into reading my posts.

You at least have access to me in comments, IM, email and by phone. You could have talked to me about things and I'd have created a special title tag so you'd know to scroll past the post in your feeds.

You didn't talk to me about it. You may have mentioned once that you wondered why I was still following LJ activities. But you didn't tell me how it made you feel, or why or any of that before. If you want to talk to me about something, I ALWAYS LISTEN. Always. Even if it makes me uncomfortable because you're my friend. You've supported me. I've lived with you. I -trust- you.

And then, the first day I can breathe since Wed, since my whole wrangling of movement administration and cat herding began weeks ago - you comment. Like that.

Hell you know I'm still packing and STILL somewhat on edge, despite breathing. And you post that.

So yes. I. AM. PISSED.

I am still deciding whether or not you deserve an FU.

Now I'm going to go sleep and start the day over.

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zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com
2008-05-31 11:32 am UTC (link)

Something like what?

I commented that your posts make me feel attacked to the point where I feel like dropping your journal.

From this comment, it sounds like I did exactly what you're saying I could do, since I'm your friend, but somehow I did it wrong, so now I'm your enemy.

Thanks for letting me know ALWAYS LISTEN=kick my ass out because I got mad once.

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the_willow
2008-05-31 05:08 pm UTC (link)

Tone doesn't matter when confronting racism. Between friends? Tone matters.

You got bitchy at me. I got bitchy right back at you. I let you know that if you wanted to drop me, you could. And I posted that if anyone else wanted to drop me, they could as well.

Always listen means I didn't flip you off, I didn't write you off. I was pissed. I told you I was pissed. I went to bed.

I have not removed you from any of my lists or anything like that. I did not tell you you were fired. I told you that you pissed me off and if you honestly wanted to drop me over this - like your original comment said you felt like doing - then you could do what you felt you had to do. I fully understand I am not the boss of you.

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	the_willow 2008-05-31 07:58 pm UTC (link)
	I cannot handle email right now. If you're still going to check to see if you can come down Thursday - we can talk about it then. If not we can talk about this sometime after my move. But here doesn't feel like the right place. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	dragovianknight 2008-05-31 02:35 pm UTC (link)
	iJay is my home. Yes, that. (Reply to this)

lavendertook
2008-05-31 03:16 pm UTC (link)

It was a good post from LJ--some good changes on important issues of creative space and well worded. I'm in wait and see mode though for the next shoe to drop--if they can continue to address the user base respectfully--I have no expectations on this and I require it to continue before I'll consider spending any money on my account there again. We'll see how these changes stick in other words. Basic accounts are still gone--there's no change in that for the good.

I'm happy being dual homed. iJ has done nothing to offend me in practice except that I'd like to see it lose the clinical aspect of it's "insanity" theme in order to be fully comfortable here. I like how Squeaky is handling everything else so far.

I'd like to see more of my friends make a base here because as it stands right now, with so few of my friends here, iJ is serving more as my back-up journal. Where I have friends with dual accounts, I first comment to them here rather than LJ to try to build up my iJ space. And when I talk on blogs, I'm listing my iJ site, not my LJ site. But my iJ community is just not filled out yet.

My goal is I'd like iJ to grow to rival LJ to break LJ's monopoly on this platform. It will keep LJ more accountable if there are viable alternatives. Once iJ grows big enough, it will be time to nurture a third platform--the more the better for accountability, though I don't think the Danga-type platform is popular enough to sustain more than 3 main sites--and maybe they'll all go the way of the dinosaur by the next decade. But I make my stand here between the facebook type platforms and the traditional blog sites that don't foster community. I'll see where my communities go.

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the_willow
2008-05-31 05:13 pm UTC (link)

LJ goes up and down. On the heels of this "We are sane. We say sane things" policy post is the LJ Advisory Board election. And there were apparently several people who did not know that the winner was a member of the abuse team.

So up ... then down.

It's tiring. I realized I can't give a flying eff anymore. It's too exhausting. I care about the people I know on LJ. I can't care about LJ anymore.

This was compounding with discovering there are third-party services that can make Blogger and Wordpress more LJ-like, in terms of community, without one needing to host on a private webserver or know how to deal with a bunch of code.

I've done nothing for months but try to puzzle out LJ's uniqueness and what made it such a comfortable home. And now I find there are other ways to do and get what I want to have.

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das_dingsi
2008-05-31 03:41 pm UTC (link)

I don't see anyone talking about LJ's newly stated policies over here. But maybe that's because, like with me, iJay is your home.

Definitely the case with me -- I've read the posts about it, as well as the original announcement on LJ, and I'm going to link it on Meta Roundup to keep people informed. But I don't feel the need to talk about it in my own journal. I don't feel like it concerns me, personally, because I've cut my ties with LJ (save for the few journals or communities I still have on my flist there). It was different in the beginning, when I was still busy moving and finding my way and also having a bit of... hm, heartbreak? withdrawal? I'm not sure how to put it, but as LJ had been my journal "home" for three or four years, I couldn't simply keep it all behind in a heartbeat. But I soon felt comfortable on IJ, and have settled down. Since then, I think my emotional investment in LJ has been on a steady decline.

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the_willow
2008-05-31 05:16 pm UTC (link)

I posted sometime earlier this month that I'd had my LJ for several years. I had my own website all told for maybe a year in versions from Geocities to my own paid host.

But LJ was consistent. So I don't think I'll ever not have an emotional tie to LJ the experience. But LJ the administration? Yeah, I really don't give a flying, anymore. This latest bit of tangled web just snapped me. There always seems to be give with one hand and take away with another.

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	kdorian 2008-05-31 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	I trust squeaky. Moreover I respect him. Yes, this. (Reply to this)