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Willow (the_willow) wrote,
@ 2009-10-28 00:24:00

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i will cut somebody, scammers +ignoramuses + asses

Right, This Is Me Not Suffering Fools Glady
My little thoughts on performance of gender, possible owning of desire and how that might be playing out in the Twilight Series thus that it attracts teen female fans - has been picked up round and about and also on LJ's Meta-fandom and I've had two idiotic comments.

One telling me that Jacob was the nice safe boy and that couldn't possibly be racist. And another blubbering something about motherhood and hateful single feminists.

Y'know, Meta-fandom should probably do whiney privileged white women (and other malcontents) the favour of letting them know their ignorance is not going to be appreciated at the linked site.

Two comments of shite is more than my blood pressure needs to handle.

Actually it's three. The first commenter claimed to disagree with me, then agreed with everything I said and started talking about points not under the topic of discussion. It was either a poor attempt at a strawman, or a serious inability in the process of analytical thinking.

ETA: And the race comment and the 'you single feminist bitch' comment are BOTH from 24.228.89.97, if your LJ really is bicrim.livejournal.com you sure aren't classy. I'd say New Jersey sure can grow 'em - but I know cool people from New Jersey and everything has aberrations. And who knows, it might be a mask.

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	afro-dyte.livejournal.com 2009-10-28 06:01 am UTC (link)
	You're nicer than me about it. (Reply to this)

sarah_frost
2009-10-28 06:02 am UTC (link)

Jacob was the nice safe boy and that couldn't possibly be racist.

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I haven't read Twilight, so I don't feel like I can offer anything intelligent on your essay itself. But I'm also reminded of the 'safe' characters of colour in Harry Potter, Cho and Dean--who end up as sort of training-wheel relationships for Harry and Ginny. I've read that the adjective "russet [skin]" gets used a lot in the novels over Jacob's exoticism--and about his minor habits of giving out unwanted kisses and bonding with infants (although that is supposed to be a positive thing in the novel). (Reminds me a little of Dean, who seems to have gotten dumped partly for being a little bit sexist towards Ginny by opening doors.)

Have you seen Kit Whitfield's take on Twilight popularity? It seems to approach some of the same ideas as you do.

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	the_willow 2009-10-28 01:49 pm UTC (link)
	Haven't seen Whitfield's take, will look at it when my head's in a better space. Appreciate the linkage, thanks. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	inkstone 2009-10-28 10:19 am UTC (link)
	The motherhood thing is probably my fault. I'm the one who brought it up although I'm not entirely sure how we jumped from "Breaking Dawn glorifies motherhood to an unhealthy degree while deprecating all other choices" to "anti-motherhood" but that's just the way these things roll, I guess. As for the Jacob comments, I got nothing. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	inkstone 2009-10-28 11:48 am UTC (link)
	And now, after having woken up a bit more and coming back to read that particular comment, my reaction is still: "How did we jump from this book portrays female volition wrt her sexuality as positive when framed in the context of eventually handing control to her husband to anti-motherhood?" (Reply to this) (Parent)